Peace is Over

We’ve been thinking hard about what to do about the war on The Screen Savers. Here’s what I’m planning to say on the show tonight:

In one hour, President Bush’s ultimatum to Saddam Hussein will expire and the US will very likely be going to war. As some of you know I have been active in the peace movement, but for now the debate is over. The die is cast.

USA FlagI think it’s time for all of us to focus our energies on supporting the men and women in harm’s way. So many of our extended Screen Savers family members are on active duty right now. Many more of you have family and friends in the service. Our thoughts and prayers are with them right now. We all hope for a short war with few casualties.

Patrick and I have talked about what we should do on the show tonight and for the duration of the war. We’ve decided to continue on as usual. There are plenty of places you can get the news of the war. There’s only one place you can get the kind of information we offer. So we’ll go on doing what we do best, but always with the awareness that so many of those near and dear to us are risking the ultimate sacrifice in the service of our nation.

81 Replies to “Peace is Over”

  1. I have always supported the military, nearly joined too. I will support them, but I still don’t like the war.
    I am sure whatever you and Patrick say will be okay.

  2. I’m All for the war. My cousin is there right now ready for the upcoming war. I joined the Navy in 1991 and served my time. I know he, along with all the other troops there, need our support.
    We should not turn our back on our own families. Not now.. Not Ever. -Frisco

  3. I don’t think anyone truly supports war. Not President Bush, not anyone.
    One might say, the President was the leader of the anti-war movement. He doesn’t want to send the men he leads to battle.
    His continual pushing back of deadlines allowing time to have Saddam Hussein or his regime or the people to act, proves that he wished to allow a peaceful movement to happen. Iraq has had 12 years to get their act together, they’ve had warnings and now it appears that the ultimatum must be met and action taken.
    No one wants war. But we cannot sit back and be allowed to be taken advantage of time and time again.
    I want peace, too. But, at this time I can only openly support President Bush’s patience and actions. I support my countrymen and our worldly brothers on the front lines as they prepare to go to battle.
    9-11 has proven that we can no longer sit back and wait for war to come to us.

  4. I also am like yourself and support peace, but I know very well that a monster like Saddam has to be taken out. I only wish there were other ways. I am Canadian and am proud of it but I am not proud of the way our leaders have backed away from supporting our friends and allies, “The USA”.I am ashamed of their actions and I wish your troops a safe return. They are not only fighting for your country, but for ours also and all countries that wish to remain free.
    Good Luck to All
    May God Bless
    Keep up the great show, I am addicted to it.

  5. I believe (mind you this is just my opinion) that TSS can say a little something neutral about the war, maybe ask the viewers to keep the soldiers in their prayers, but I also think that the show needs to go ahead as usual and retain its light and funny atmosphere.

  6. I think that’s a very eloquent statement Leo. It respects all of your viewers of differing opinions, acknowledges the gravity of the moment, reflects the hopes we all have for the safe return of freinds and family, and then moves on. You continue to impress me as a personality, thinker, and human being. Let’s hope tv always has room for Leo.

  7. In the days after 9|11, TSS shined more than it had ever before. Even though it’s grown, The Screen Savers and its viewers are still a family (just like the network’s always wanted). I’m glad we’ll be able to check in.
    I watched The Daily Show a couple of days ago and I was relieved that there was something else on television other than serious news. That’s part of what makes TSS great for me; it’s about having fun. I say keep up with the monkey stories and the ones about strange eBay auctions. It’s what you do best – along with that computer help stuff.
    Acknowledge those who are fighting for our country, careful what you say about your own views, and then give everyone who’s watching what they turn to TSS for.

  8. My opinion about a particular policy has never had anything to do with my loyalty to my fellow Americans in uniform, my country, or whoever is in the Office of the President. I have nothing to say to anyone who thinks it does.
    For me, The Screensavers has always been about empowering people. You do well to continue. Bless you all.

  9. I don’t think that anyone relishes the idea of going to war with Iraq. Americans are a peace loving people by nature and we generally loath imposing our “justice” through force in any situation. However, over the last 12 years President Hussein has proven time and time again that he has no intention of disarming and has given us a very hard choice: disarm him or allow the people of Iraq to continue to live in captivity to an evil man. I think we’re making the right choice. It is very sad to think of the lives (both American and Iraqi) that will be lost during this conflict. But I look forward to the time when the Iraqi people can walk the streets of their country in full freedom. While I hate the idea of war, I support Prime Minister Blair, President Bush and all of our troops as they work to make Iraq a free nation where fear no longer is the order of the day.

  10. I dont like it, and i dont approve of it, but theres nothing any of us people who tried to protest it can do. Democracy failed.

  11. Well said Leo.
    I am serving in the military and will soon be deployed. I have been involved in the peace movement as much as I can in my situation.
    I am glad that TSS will not become war focused. For those of us preparing to go to war, distraction is always welcome.
    I thank you for your well wishes for the troops.

  12. Very well said Leo. I for one, am glad that the current events will not alter the entire show. I think what you said is well thought out and covers the important things. I know I look forward to watching something besides the news when TSS is on. We can catch up on the news during TechLive. 😉

  13. You can’t negotiate with a madman, Nevile Chamerlain thought he could negotiate with Hitler. He was so proud of “Peace in our time” all the while Hitler laughed at him behind his back because he had so easily used him. Thank God President Bush is not that naive. Support your troups and your president.

  14. That’s so……just right, Leo. We had a family friend deployed last week, he left behind his wife and 6 week old baby girl. It’s good to know lots of people are praying for these men and women. I’m sitting here crying at what you wrote here, goodness, when you actually say it… So glad TSS is marching on as usual! 🙂

  15. Thank you, Leo. That sounds like the correct route to take. Michele, you have our support, may you remain safe in all that you do and be back home as soon as possible.
    To say that George W. Bush is the head of the antiwar movement is like saying that the RIAA is the head of the consumer protection movement. This military action has nothing to do with the cause of protecting anyone other that the interests of King George’s corporate friends, including our dear Vice President who will be monetarily gaining from the alleged “rebuilding” of Iraq. Thousands of innocent people are going to die, and we are making civilians in the US and Europe far more vulnerable to terrorism. Of all the chickenhawks in the US Congress that rubberstamped this mess, exactly one of them has a child in the armed services. War is pretty easy if you think that neither you nor anyone you love is going to get hurt, isn’t it? If the Bush twins were on active duty anywhere other than the corner pub or the local frat house you can bet your ass that he would have put his arrogance in the garbage where it belongs and let the inspections do what they were successfully doing — disarming the government of Saddam Hussein. But our puppet president had an agenda regardless of the truth, so the books have been cooked by the intelligence departments to make things appear to be different than they are, and the sleepwalkers of the world followed blindly. We are just as vulnerable to terrorism as we were 18 months ago, the attacks of 9/11 were not done at the hands of Iraqis, and the same accusations that have been leveled against Hussein could apply to the governments of Pakistan, Israel, and yes, even the U.S of A . But nevermind the truth – there’s oil to grab for Haliburton isn’t here – so let’s get our war on, shall we?
    Every drop of blood that is spilled from this moment on, whether it be military or civilian blood, regardless of the nationality or religion of that blood – every last drop of it will be on the hands of the Illegal Government of George W. Bush and all those corporations and shadow advisors who support them. May God have mercy on their souls.

  16. I applaud you Leo for making a statement that I feel might have been difficult for you to make, considering your stance against this war and President Bush. I am glad to see that you can at least give the well deserved support to the men and women that are over there fighting for us.
    One last thing; I am trying to get everyone I know and everyone they know to spend a moment each night during this war, and think about and give thanks to the men and women over there.
    Please don’t flame me I’m just trying to give back in my own small way to those whom give so much to us and ask very little.

  17. EndThisWarNow…
    Are you serious?
    While to some the RIAA may appear to be a “bad guy” – but, all they are doing is protecting their interests. Is that a bad thing? Hell, if I were in a band, I’d be interested in protecting MY PROPERTY from being stolen and copied without MY PERMISSSION.
    Don’t be so friggin’ ignorant. OK?
    If President Bush was not interested in obtaining peace this would have happened long ago. Try reading a newspaper, or watch some television news.
    Illegal goverments, etc. LOL. You’ve got about as much proof there as Saddam does that he doesn’t have weapons of mass destruction.
    If you hate the President and what he’s done and doing so bad, LEAVE. And I say that hesitantly and only reserve it for folks that deserve a comment like that. I believe and support Freedom of Speech, but your tone speaks volumes of your respect for our grand country, its elected leader and the people he represents.
    Stop using “war as an oil” as an excuse. This war is not about oil.

  18. I do not like war either. Frankly, it scares the daylights out of me. This must be done though and I will back our President and our troops all the way. These celebrities that are coming out against Bush really make me angry. The Dixie Chicks are getting exactly what they deserve.
    Words cannot describe how evil Saddam and his sons are. They have been gassing their own people for years. One of Saddam’s sons is in charge of the “Rape Room”.
    For weeks now in Baghdad, mothers who have had infants and young children die have not been allowed to bury them. The bodies have been frozen and will be lain around Baghdad when the bombing starts to look like we have killed children. Sick!!!!

  19. I just wanted to say that although I don’t agree with this war, to not support the brave men and women would be a travesty.I also would like to say I think that the way your opinions were expressed was very well put, and tasteful.

  20. I just wanted to say that the soliders in the middle east are in our hopes and prayers. Your are true heroes and please return home safe and soon.
    Jason

  21. I find myself very troubled — appalled by the recklessness George W. Bush and his top advisors, even though I agree completely that Saddam Hussein is a murderous thug and tyrant who needs to be eliminated for the sake of Iraq and humanity.
    Now that the war has started, I will be hoping for a swift U.S. victory, even though that will cement Bush and his horrendous, radical politics into place for at least six more years and maybe for a generation. To hope otherwise on the war would be to hope for death and suffering.
    Although I find this war a travisty I do support all of our troops and those of our allies.
    I just hope it is over very soon.

  22. I think your comments on TSS were very elegant and a nice change form the constant pushing of ideology it seems most shows and famous people seem to force on people in these times. We see the issues of the world all around us and need outlets like TSS to keep us going if for nothing else but to try to keep our sanity in these crazy times.
    I do support the war, both in idea and in the support of the U.S. and international troops abroad. I hope for a short war so we can begin to rebuild the peace both in the Middle East and in the U.N., for a divide like we have had as of late will only lead to bigger world problems in the future. Diplomacy can only go so far before it becomes a debate club that no one wants to listen to.
    “The outcome of the war is in our hands; the outcome of words is in the council.”
    Homer, The Iliad

  23. Your comments, Leo, as usual are very thoughtful and compassionate and comforting, which I, for one, really need now. My family and I have been watching you and learning from you since your ZDTV days and feel we know you, although we’ve never met. The strange thing is that after it started tonight, I came here for some solace. Like many others, we have strong feelings about what’s taking place but have no power to do a darn thing about it. We look forward to watching your show to take our minds off of it even just a little bit.
    And, of course, there’s always Leoville to discuss and share feelings.

  24. I liked the globe that was suggested on the screen savers and think everyone should download it so you can have a good idea where the action is going on.

  25. Hey leo try to keep up the good work during this
    conflect becuase I noticed two years ago on the
    night after 9/11 of how good the TSS staff keep up the pace of the show.I hope you guys can still
    do the same.I know that the war is on everybodys
    mind but we can still enjoy some good TSS fun
    during these tough times…………..

  26. Leo I liked what you wrote. I haven’t read everyone’s comments yet, but I will.
    To the readers of Leo’s Blog: If you voted in the last presidential election, you may skip my comments.
    I feel that protest is important, I have been to my share of rallies of all types over the years and I also agree that the time for rallying is over now that troops are engaged. They deserve the support of our country while they have their lives at stake. And even though I was against going to war this soon, I did think that force may be ultimately neccessary, like it was in Kosovo, which the U.N. did not support and we had to get NATO to approve our action there.
    As for protesters of this “war” in general, all I can say is we had a very LOW TURNOUT in the presidential election and we had a SUPREME COURT appoint a president.
    Where were all these protesters then?
    This country got exactly what it deserved as far as I am concerned, an apathetic electorate stood by while GWB took the White House, now they are whining that we are at war….. WELL what did you thing was going to happen???
    When the country yawns at the fiasco that was the last presidential election, they carrying a peace sign today won’t solve your problem.
    Next time vote.
    Next time spend your energies on election reform and ballot reform and become active politically. Don’t stay home watching The Bachelor and playing video games. WAKE UP PEOPLE, your apathy for political involvement leads to what you are seeing now, a government that is not listening to your voice because you didn’t voice your vote when it was important.
    I now return you to Leo’s Blog, this has been a rant by EB and is the sole opinion of EB and should not reflect on Leo/TSS/Tech TV or any of it’s subsidiaries.

  27. EB-
    I have to plead yet again, “are you serious?”
    We did not have the Supreme Court appoint us a President. George W. Bush may not have won the popular vote, but he won the electoral college – a system set up to allow certain safeguards, etc. along time ago. This system has been in place and has worked for quite some time. To complain about this system after your candidate has lost is just plain silly.
    This country has gone to war only as a last resort. You can blame it on democrats, liberals or whomever else for not showing up at the polls; but, you are forgetting that a larger showing at the polls may have also supported President Bush and led him to a larger victory. Hell, blame Clinton and Gore, too… blame the Democratic party for not having a better candidate.
    Me? I think President Bush is shining this hour and am glad to have voted for him. Not because we’re at war. That was a last resort. But, because he has the courage and determination to do the things he feels is right and stick to the resolution he has made despite of the protests.
    Yes, I realize California and San Francisco is practically the capitol for the Democratic party and liberalism overall. That doesn’t make them right 🙂
    FOUR MORE YEARS!

  28. Let me prefix this by saying I am a fan of the show, and at this point I am debating on whether I should continue to support your broadcast or not.
    Leo has shown his true colors with his support of the “Peace Movement”. Your insincere segway to the American troops seemed anything but heartfelt.
    “Who you are speaks so loudly, I can’t hear what you are saying”
    And another thing: Supporting any kind of theft while hosting a television show watched by many young individuals is unbelievably irresponsible.
    So join your fellow confused peace assemblers, keep downloading your music (Karma) and have a hit off the pipe for me.
    Sincerely,
    Marc A

  29. For those of us who oppose President Bush’s decisions and the US role in the conflict in Iraq as it is currently taking shape, we should try to imagine what our lives would be like if Sadam Hussein(or one of many in history like him) was our President and not Bush.
    I’ll always enjoy “The Screen Savers” and will continue to watch no matter how my opinions or convictions may differ from anyone who hosts or appears on the show. I can’t agree half the time with the members of my own family, but I won’t stop coming home.

  30. “Generals gathered in their masses
    just like witches at black masses
    evil minds that plot destruction
    sorcerers of death’s construction
    in the fields the bodies burning as the war machine keeps turning
    death and hatred to mankind
    poisoning their brainwashed minds… Oh lord yeah!
    Politicians hide themselves away
    they only started the war
    Why should they go out to fight?
    They leave that role to the poor
    Time will tell on their power minds
    Making war just for fun
    Treating people just like pawns in chess
    Wait ’till their judgement day comes, yeah!
    Now in darkness, world stops turning
    as the war machine keeps burning
    No more war pigs of the power
    Hand of god has sturck the hour
    Day of judgement, god is calling on their knees, the war pigs crawling
    Begging mercy for their sins
    Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
    ALL RIGHT NOW!”
    BLACK SABBATH

  31. I’m glad you guys did that on the show. It is the only show that I watch every single day, and one thing I like about it is that I can get away from all the sad news about the war.
    Brett

  32. JD writes:
    >
    Yep, true, but I was referring to the folks out protesting the war who *may not* have voted last election, spending a half hour in line waiting to vote is more productive than spending all day protesting the war, in my opinion. That’s who I was addressing in my comments. But if this inspires people to register to vote and become active, I’m all for it. No matter who they chose to vote for. I think it is a disgrace that we have such low turn out for elections.

  33. ^^^^^^Ooops, sorry JD, here is what I was attempting to quote from your previous post:
    “… but, you are forgetting that a larger showing at the polls may have also supported President Bush and led him to a larger victory.”

  34. Come you masters of war
    You that build all the guns
    You that build the death planes
    You that build the big bombs
    You that hide behind walls
    You that hide behind desks
    I just want you to know
    I can see through your masks
    You that never done nothin’
    But build to destroy
    You play with my world
    Like it’s your little toy
    You put a gun in my hand
    And you hide from my eyes
    And you turn and run farther
    When the fast bullets fly
    Like Judas of old
    You lie and deceive
    A world war can be won
    You want me to believe
    But I see through your eyes
    And I see through your brain
    Like I see through the water
    That runs down my drain
    You fasten the triggers
    For the others to fire
    Then you set back and watch
    When the death count gets higher
    You hide in your mansion
    As young people’s blood
    Flows out of their bodies
    And is buried in the mud
    You’ve thrown the worst fear
    That can ever be hurled
    Fear to bring children
    Into the world
    For threatening my baby
    Unborn and unnamed
    You ain’t worth the blood
    That runs in your veins
    How much do I know
    To talk out of turn
    You might say that I’m young
    You might say I’m unlearned
    But there’s one thing I know
    Though I’m younger than you
    Even Jesus would never
    Forgive what you do
    Let me ask you one question
    Is your money that good
    Will it buy you forgiveness
    Do you think that it could
    I think you will find
    When your death takes its toll
    All the money you made
    Will never buy back your soul
    And I hope that you die
    And your death’ll come soon
    I will follow your casket
    In the pale afternoon
    And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
    Down to your deathbed
    And I’ll stand o’er your grave
    ‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead
    BOB DYLAN

  35. I agree that there is only one place for the type of information TSS provides. I don’t think there should be anything above a cursory mention of the conflict. This is not a news program. It is not a political program. It is not a place for the show’s hosts, producers, or staff to voice their personal feelings on these issues; it is not a talk show. I feel that any kind of examination of the current events will only serve to cheapen the show and the efforts of those who have been called to duty. Please continue doing what TSS does best, and what the hosts, staff, and producers do so well.

  36. Leo
    I won’t go into my opinions here. I will direct you or anyone who wants to know to my blogg for that.
    I did want to send a short note saying thank you for your comments. It is important for some sense of normal at times like this. I did not think for a moment that you, nor anyone else at Tech TV were disrespectful in anyway. I found comfort in the fact that you guys were just going to carry on as usual. You were right on the money when you said that there are many places to find out about the war but there was only one place to get tech information and help. So thanks for being normal in abnormal times. I take great comfort in that.
    Thank you!!

  37. I agree to what you have to say and that we need to give our troops our support during these hard times. Keep up the good work! And may our troops come home safe.

  38. Reading these comments appalls me. The jingoistic thugs that have led this glorious nation to be the most loathed in the world are apparently in full force as TechTV viewers.
    I see this as a huge problem that Leo’s going to have to face — let’s be honest, Leo, you’re a product of Santa Cruz and we know where your true opinions lie on this. But, as is clear from “Future Fighting Machines” and the frothing kill-kill-kill mentality of a generation raised on first-person shooters, TechTV *needs* to not piss them off.
    Is there a place for a liberal at that network? Judging by the meatheads who have posted “WE HAVE TO PUT A CAP IN SADDAM’S ASS” or “WE NOW MUST STAND BY OUR PRESIDENT RIGHT OR WRONG,” I’d guess not.
    “The Screen Savers” has, by and large, supported causes involving personal freedom and liberty. I don’t see this as being limited to Americans, and by giving support for an illegitimate war that has outraged the world, you are, by extension, contradicting your ideals.
    Don’t support our troops.

  39. Hey Sean,
    It’s one thing not to support the President on any matter. But to place on this page “Don’t Support Our Troops” what kind of asshole are you? I don’t see your ass in the line of fire. What no balls? Must be a full fledged Flower child. If you want Liberal news go to CNN. Our listen on the radio, NPR.
    Our Troops which you are condemning are fighting for FREEDOM. Which always comes from a war being fought. Go back to school and read some history jackass you might learn something.

  40. Sean,
    Usually in this type of setting I don’t repsond to people, instead letting everyone say what they have to. However, I think you’re really being unfair by not supporting our troops – and giving the rest of us a bad name.
    Personally I do not believe this war is the right thing. I have done my part to voice this, by sending several letters to my state representatives. However, when someone comes forward and makes a rash statement like ‘don’t support our troops’ it makes the arguments of the rest of us that less meaningful, as it’s obvious that the country and the world views all of us who are anti-war as one large group. When you say something like that, you speak for us all.
    What you don’t seem to understand is that our fighting men and women are just doing their job. They have been called to duty, and some of them had signed up for this positin never expecting to be called to duty, as we are in one of the most peaceful periods in our country’s history. They have an obligation to fight whether they agree with this war or not – and many of them don’t. It was not their decision to go to Iraq or Kuwait, it was not their decision to escalate this conflict. It is not the fault of our soldiers.
    If you want to be angry at someone, take your anger out on our administration. Take it out on them for strategically beginning this war at the same time that budget votes take place, in an attempt to redirect the nation’s attention away from the reciprocal funding that campaign finaciers are recieving. Take it out on them for making the contradictory action of ‘upholding’ a UN resolution by circumventing the UN. Take it out on them for putting children and grandchildren in harm’s way, to die in a forsaken desert halfway acorss the world, away from their families and people who love them, only so that in the end companies like Halliburton with ties to our administration can reap the rewards for ‘rebuilding’ Iraq. Blame our administration, but please, don’t blame our troops.

  41. Okay,
    #1. We have an all volunteer army. The people who join up know what they’re getting into and are not going in unwillingly.
    #2. They are trained to KILL PEOPLE. That is their job. If they get hurt in the process, they understand this.
    #3. They are not defending our nation — they are invading another nation. We are killing human beings in another country in order to uphold UN Resolution 1441 — WHILE THE REST OF THE UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL FAILS TO SUPPORT US. Oh, the hilariously bleak irony!
    I would gladly support the people who protect our country, if that was what they were doing. If our military was being used as a defense force, they would deserve all the respect I could give them. However, they’re just “following orders” and invading another country — defying the wishes of the majority of people in the world.
    Does one absolve Nazi soldiers because they were not the ones who developed their country’s racist policies?
    I’d rather be an “NPR-listening flower child” than someone who condones the deaths of Iraqi innocents because “oh, hey, they MIGHT kill us some day.” American paranoia and nationalism is at a high enough point, I’m probably going to move to another country. Love it or leave it!
    Here’s a good link: Ted Rall on not supporting our troops
    –sean

  42. Ok — my last post to these boards, didn’t mean to start a flamewar.
    But, the real point here is what about Leo Laporte?
    I’m curious about Leo’s real opinions on this matter and what tensions he has to face working at TechTV.
    Case in point: Several months ago, TSS showcased some kid who’d developed a “let’s kill Saddam” mod of a first-person shooter. And (presumably) the producers of the show thought, hey, this is fun and certainly wouldn’t offend anyone.
    I find it hard to believe that a show based in San Fran which has a product of Santa Cruz hosting it is going to have such a blase attitude towards questionable American foreign policy.
    Plus, I have a hard time believing that the guy who runs Vulcan Ventures is going to be in support of this war.
    BUT, it seems clear from these comments and from the rest of the channel’s programming (Robot WARS, Future FIGHTING MACHINES, The Tech of SLAUGHTERING PEOPLE, etc.) that there’s a huge conservative demographic that TechTV is shooting for. Anyone who’s been on the Internet for more than a decade knows that there’s a strong correlation between an interest in technology and nationalism.
    But Leo — are you selling out your soul working for a network that espouses such different ideals than you (assuming I’ve got your ideals pegged in the first place)? Does there need to be more balance in the approach to militarism presented on TechTV?
    Thank you, I’ll take my answer off the air.
    –sean

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